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Viking


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Hi Folks,

In accordance with the rules contained vide the ARYA Constitutional By-Laws, the ARYA provides an opportunity for the election of National Class Coordinators. The following is an extract from the aforementioned By-Laws describing the regulation:

5. NATIONAL CLASS CO-ORDINATORS

5.1 Each ARYA recognized class may have a National Class Co-ordinator, (NCC) in the absence of a recognized National Class Association (NCA).

5.2 A NCC shall have access to the ARYA Executive but will not be a member of the Executive or have voting rights.

5.3 The NCC shall be responsible to and under the direction of the National Executive for:

(a) Furthering the aims of the Association by promoting the design, construction and racing of the Class.

(b) Acting as a liaison between the ARYA and class owners and representing the owners in all relevant matters.

(c) Producing material of interest to class owners (regatta reports, articles etc) for the ARYA newsletter.

5.4 The NCC shall be elected annually at the ARYA AGM or at any time by mail vote that the ARYA allows. (B/L 5.1 - 5.4 1995 AGM)

            Today, each of the International classes have their respective NCC (contact details are listed on the ARYA Web site contacts page). Other National and/or State recognised classes (Soling, MMs, Laser, Multi-Hulls etc.) also have their respective class coordinator. The EC12 class had an NCC until recently and also has an ARYA Interim approval for its Class association. I am confident Peter Morris will reconsider and return to his former NCC position. His positive contributions to the ARYA and in particular, the EC12 Class have been significant to say the least.

            To that end, this is the current service provided by the ARYA. Of note, it is timely to highlight the impending process by the ARYA to update their Constitution. I am not aware of the timeframe associated with this process other than statements made in the recent ARYA AGM documents.

            I hope this contributes to a better understanding and also stimulates interest for further discussions.

Regards,

Bob.



-- Edited by Viking on Tuesday 31st of May 2011 12:08:50 PM

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Viking


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Fair and positive comments Maverick.

     You have listed a great guide for posters, short, simple and very effective.

     With regard to the Subject Heading one needs to understand the ARYA has no direct association with the rank and file members in accordance with their Constitution. Affiliated members are the State and Territory Councils only.

     Perhaps it would be beneficial for interested parties to read and comprehend the ARYA Constitution and associated By-Laws: http://www.radiosailing.org.au/constitution.htm

     This provides a framework or network if you like, of State and Territory Councils responsible for managing all aspects of Radio Yachting affairs in their respective region.

     In turn, an individual skipper joins an affiliated club of the relevant Council.

     This is a brief and basic structure as I know it.

     Now back to the subject topic - The ARYA throught it's membership and involvement vide the replacement ISAF-RSD structure provides equal opportunity for Radio Yachting members to compete at International, National, State and Club level in accordance with a common set of official International Rules and Regulation. "As I see it".

     I'm not authority in this area and would appreciate any assistance be it correction or improvement.

Regards,

Bob 

 PS. More to follow.



-- Edited by Viking on Tuesday 31st of May 2011 11:24:21 AM

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Hi to both Viking and MM137!

Before I comment, I would just like to say that I appreciate you folks signing off with your real names. I am really impressed, and I hope this trend continues, because I've never really been a fan of what amouts effectively to anonymous posting.

This topic was originally set up just for the EC12, but suggested, it would be more appropriate in the General Discussion are. 

It will be moved there ASAP. Thank you for suggestions. 

Viking, with regard to moderation, I take your point. But for the good of this sport and its positive promotion, constructive criticisms that users make are to be welcomed. For too long, criticism has been stifled, leading to what I believe is a decline in the quality of our sport.

I do not have the time at this stage to view every post, or to moderate content. What I expect from users of this forum is that;criticiser!

1. I expect users to take responsibility for their own actions.
2. I expect that there will never be any personal criticisms of anybody, a member of this forum, or otherwise. Criticise issues, but not individuals!
3.  Any criticism of something unsatisfactory should also be accompanied by a suggested solution. Criticism on its own is of no value and just reflects poorly on the criticiser!

Viking, I understand exactly what you have said. I have been guilty of the same things from time to time in the past. And I may still slip from time to time, but knowing tha, has mostly made me think twice about posting something inflammatory. Self moderation if you like!! smile

I hope this addresses issues raised!



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Viking


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Mav,

            Would this topic be better located in the General Section?

          With regard moderation, I believe it is beneficial and warranted as its all too easy to become embroiled in the heat of discussion and let ones emotions take over.

            I must admit I have been guilty of this in past and received notification from the Moderator of my error. After re-reading my post I had to agree and accept responsibility, subsequently I had no reservations with offering my apology to those concerned.

            That was a situation Im not keen to repeat and would hope your moderation of this site may serve to stop poster from making similar errors as I did.

            So Mav, there is a place for moderation albeit democratic.

Regards,

Bob.

PS. Maybe we should get Henry to take the reins at the Top!!



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     A very broad question.

1.     I am certainly dissappointed by the ARYA decision to suspend their Forum. This was the only means for the Rank and File to communicate and receive information on a variety of topics.

        Many people made significant contributions for the betterment of the Sport and to encourage the Public to come along and participate. I am particularly dissapointed for people such as Brian Dill who has contributed numerous articles during the building process of his two Bantock "A" class RC yachts. They were inspirational to say the least.

2.     I am also dissappointed with the perception of lack of interest by the ARYA for the Rank and File membership. Questions are asked on a continual basis only to be met with silence or perceived as threats or personal attacks. 

        I acknowledge there is a process to follow vide the ARYA Constitution however, lack of communication is no answer and can only serve to hiegthen frustrations and cast a very large cloud of doubt over executive management practice. At the end of the day, this does little to Promote harmony on a National basis nor does it contribute to the ultimate goal of Promoting Radio Sailing in this Country.

        I would like to see the implementation of a process allowing the Rank and File an opportunity to communicate with the National Executive on matters of importance and in turn, receive a reply. This would improve the profile of the organisation (ten fold) and in particular, demonstrate their interest and committment to the future of the sport.

3.     On a matter of considerable importance, prior to the suspension of the ARYA Forum, discussions were active regarding the ARYA Insurance Policy. There appeared to be considerable differences of opinion of what and of whom that coverage protected.

        This above all else has the potential for serious implication on individual members attending ARYA authorised competitions and clarification from the ARYA is needed and not unreasonable.

        If we are all covered,,, then great and that's the end of topic,,, if we are lacking in any area,,, then let's contribute ideas to correct the situation.

        I don't believe the majority of us are in a position to defend against Litigation from an Insurance Provider or a member of the Public!

        These are my immediate concerns and I don't believe any of these points to be unreasonable. Via the process of meaningfull discussion solutions can be found for the betterment of all concerned. Are our interest with the Sport or our own agendas!

        It's time personalities were placed on the backburner and the Interests of the Sport taking center stage!

        Thanks for this opportunity.

Regards,

Bob.      



-- Edited by Viking on Sunday 29th of May 2011 01:55:15 PM



-- Edited by Viking on Sunday 29th of May 2011 01:59:59 PM

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ARYA.    I'm part  is the HISTORY side of it. ARYA is PART off me.

 

HENRY



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You have paid your fees to the ARYA through your local club. 

Are you getting value for your money?



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